Even without the statement, the verses essentially can be stalemated like DC and SCP can stalemate completely. Still below that of the Dc writer. My question is simple: do any of these 3 have any usable on-panel Rumble feats at all? Many claim poplular lore is that its the Presence. @userthatisme: You are wanking DC, I am not wanking Marvel. The Overvoid Lurk is a narrative entity appearing both as and within a text. As a result, even beings such as The Presence, The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid are aspects of it. But The writer acting through the Presence is what it is. Considering they are still on paper. save. Tier: High 1-A. The Presence is a fictional character in comic books published by DC Comics. The-One-Above-All is a character from Marvel Comics and the God of that universe. The overvoid is a canvas of all DC creations. 2,441 447. @userthatisme: youtube is a funny place for debating, I like seeing what people say to me. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The Presence is a powerful being originating from the DC universe. The religious cosmology of the multiverse is complex, with many pantheons of gods co-existing alongside each other. Loading editor. Funny we ignore that, but use his much needed number to justify High-1B for our DC profiles. Explore Wikis ... the Void was just part of the Presence? monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the writer tiering system Replies: 362; Forum: Content Revision; Tier upgrade for The eonymous. It is the Primal Monitor. @userthatisme: A random Eonymous has overvoid on his desk and its threated like worthless trash. Tier: High 1-A, likely 0. The presence more or less is the version he appears to human, good example being Yahweh. Prescense creates multiverses on it. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. The Presence is The GOD. That's how I have always seen it. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, also known as The Void, The Overmonitor and The Primal Monitor, is the ultimate source of all creation of the DC Comics Franchise. Close. Overvoid > The Presence. Sorry for the confusion. xearesay. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. 10 months ago. Wouldn’t that be an aspect of the Overvoid/paper? The Writer (self-insert of Grant Morrison) is the "supreme being" that writes and governs the whole thing. Games Movies TV Video. The One-Above-All vs Over Monitor # Over Monitor over monitor wins because the presence said that someone created him. I only see you wanking marvel and you never show feats for dc ever(or statements). Aren’t they the readers? Follow 1820. Trying to become the fastest man alive.. But nice reply to him, you really showed him, @userthatisme: alonis hates monitors or there fans he is poking fun, I didt read it I only read him saying Overvoid soloing presence. Please click here if you are willing to help out. The point of battles is to have discussion, and you can’t have a discussion with infinitely powerful characters. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. They're an infinite white canvas (which is the blank page of a comic book) the collective DC "story" (aka the omniverse and all DC properties together) is an ink splotch on said canvas. Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Mandrakk or the Overvoid view DC reality as a microbe in comparison to it? I should know because vlad from accounting Is omnipotent. Snyder is using Kirby's version. 0 Kudos Antvasima. The Writer and The Presence are practically the same. Wait I just noticed you aren’t saying anything true just jokes, sorry. Definitely not a vs topic. The character debuted in More Fun Comics #52 (February 1940), and was created by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Baily Publication history. @xearesay: bruh matteis wrote that story pralaya is his character when asked he stayed she was apart of the presence he has written multiple story's about the presence and has always viewed him at the top again face palm his opinion matters right there, @y3kthunder: U mad Overvoid solos the Presence Overvoid was terrified of CAS who is the strongest character in all of fiction CAS can pull you into the comic book and beat you up so stop wanking. Darkseid is by far the weakest of the four. Over Monitor Over monitor IS the overvoid, and the writers also established that the presence should be above the overvoid/void, tho he exists within the overvoid, he shouldn't be limited to it @tyr why ping me. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. It includes elements from multiple religions, mythologies, and modern concepts such as the Endless. The "Overmonitor" is not a name for the Overvoid. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. People are just tending to make him look like a fodder which he isn't and I get it that overvoid is stronger than the presence but the presence isn't stronger than Toaa so imo Toaa wins against overvoid too. Above both is the race called the Eonymous. Jetzt ist Cosmic Armor Superman im Grunde genommen von seiner besten Seite ein Oversversal (oder eine niedrigere Metaverse-Ebene), das für sich allein ist. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Discussions Monitor-Mind the Overvoid is the void of absolute nothingness that encompasses creation, standing outside of its deepest reaches, beyond all dual concepts and the stories which form around them, being the crumbling point in which all things cease to be, and the background of all stories and ideas within DC Comics itself. Only Speedy Gonzales can outrun me, THE FLASH. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. Lucifer may have escaped creation itself and gone somewhere in the Overvoid, but note that The Overvoid and The Presence are actually related and are the same. Name: The Presence, the Source (In another belief system), Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, God Origin: DC Comics. 67% Upvoted. time and time again I see better feats. 1 of 2 Go to page. Nur der Monitor-Geist und Overvoid überschreiten die Präsenz in ihren Existenzebenen. XSUPREMEXSKILLZ. Monitors and the like are a cool concept for the purpose they serve. Please click here if you are willing to help out. No, I was saying that all the things I said that are a part of the Presence are also a part of the writer. Now if we are to take the Overvoid seriously, I'd say he's the paper to be drawn on if anything. The Presence/The Source is God (in universe), all powerful and controls everything. Or it … ill stop sending this stuff now I just wanna know why do YouTube commenters claim this stuff? It is the void outside every creation. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. Nothing like this has ever been stated in DC. Powers and Stats. Pralaya is the Overvoid, according to you, and is named synonymously with the Source, who is a like being to the Presence, and is also called an aspect of the Presence by the author. But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy, Honestly with the omnipotent statements, then verses would stalemate. God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles. So is The Source, The Oversoul, etc. Both have different interpretation about DC comics. Honestly though if you can’t give a list, it’s fine but I also wanna take that as a “DC is the most powerful verse in fiction” type thing. While Yahweh / Carey's Presence is the conscious, manifested, physical aspect of God within its own Dream. Overvoid initially appeared as a copy of Intergalactic#8 within Intergalactic#8, discovered by the character Ignoble Steed. vs Overvoid Cosmic Armor Superman Mandrakk Who wins? Lucifer and Michael are second to The Presence. They are the unseen "presence" with ultimate power over every story, bound behind their source wall (the fourth wall). @userthatisme: in my opinion theyre worse and that's saying something cause I'll admit thanos is wanked they actually believe monitors solo everything absolutely everything. 01:28, February 19, 2019. 40018621 7 mo 10 d . I think scp 3812 only loses to maybe lucifer but definitely the Presence, @userthatisme: given some time I'm sure I could give you a list that I think could potentially do the task. It is not always clear how the Abrahamic God fits in to this scheme - for exampl… But I vaguely remember the Presence that he was shaped by external forces. >Glad we agree that Overvoid is the comic page and Lucifer and The Presence are creations of Nix Uotan, who is the Authors avatar. The fact that you can't see that speaks to your own ignorance and closemindedness. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. 11 comments. Who wins? In Morrrisons cosmology Thread starter Hykuu; Start date Nov 8, 2019; Tags dc comics monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source Status Not open for further replies. The overvoid is the paper and the prescense is the writer. Your assumptions are not evidence. It certainly looks like they are above them. In Neil Gaimans cosmology. Overvoid is, and never will be above The Presence. Pralaya is not an aspect of the Overvoid. Don’t do it. I said larfleeze can beat hotu thanos lol, @userthatisme: overvoid>>>>>>>mandrakk and cas >>>>>>>toaa/Presence< fiction. The Scan above just shows Eonymous to basically interpret us and yes he is above the Overvoid. Overvoid is merely a concept where the presence created everything and didn't interfere. Also zeno is not omnipotent by any means I doubt he could handle any of marvel or dcs God tiers. More History; Done. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. This is either a micheal Julius alt or my favourite troll. Overvoid 10/10 this fodder and his fodder verse. Others said Overvoid written by Grant Morrison is supreme. Do you even know what you are saying? The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy. No. To add to this I have an actual last image. It is the blank page a writer use to create miracles. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. The Presence is everywhere but also nowhere at once so no matter how many times Lucifer tries to escape The Presence, just realize The Presence is God and is omnipresent which means he is everywhere, everything, and nowhere at once. Some said The Presence written by Neil Gaiman is supreme GOD of DC universe. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. EmptyHand 4 mo 13 d . NOOOOO! The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. AnwaysOT: Epic, I just learnt of new characters. Aren't they pretty much the same being? It's a conscious unmanifest void. Hykuu. Kid spilling milk on it warps reality. At the end of the issue, it was revealed that Overvoid was also the narrator of Wanderlust, having gained sentience through its own presence within the text. Which is to monitor the universes. 1. I don’t see any tbh but give a good list of the ones you think can or you think are capable of. Which is true as dematties thinks creation to be a dream and when god isn't dreaming that's pralaya. Example: The Presence, the One Above All. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. I just dont recall if DC was ever clear on who is the end all-be all in DC. Also marvel is more wanked compared to DC wank(normally superman or darksied). It's a conscious unmanifest void. Is the dc writer really apart of the presence? If a writer has an idea for any creative stories they come up with, it is done through the Presence. Soloed by batman ? The Overvoid is an aspect of The Presence. @y3kthunder: Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. They are outsiders watching reality for entertainment which is the only reason they dont destroy it entirely iirc. Nobody is big brain without saying a trash character is omnipotent like Zeno. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it.The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Lol. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. share. All of the evidence points to Presence-Source-Overvoid/Pralaya being a divine trinity. The Presence and The Overmonitor might be the same as well. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. The Presence The Overmonitor is the canvas, The Presence is the writer. But due to it being marvel, nobody cares. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. I wasted my time with a vs battle fan calc guy. Also with the multiverse, if you like can you put the most powerful you have researched? Sounds false. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom FANDOM. Also if you had any analytical skills, you would know that I was just trolling and mocking xearfesay and Mj. Tyrannus 5 mo 3 d . It has never been suggested that the Overvoid is superior to anything on it. All versions of supreme entities and abstracts like The Overvoid are apart of The Presence. Empty Hand vs The Presence # Empty Hand When the moniter species did exist the preasence was debatable for being in the true overvoid via scaling above most of the species, but now that there dead and only overmoniter/moniter exists this means we cannot classify the preasence as beyond godsphere overvoid … Either way, The Presence is omnipotent and his true form is completely identical to the Overvoid, so The Presence wins this one since he is THE god. It is the canvas on which all creation then exists in. The Presence vs Over Monitor # The Presence I wanted to know your opinion on this. The Oversoul id the Presence at his highest. And yet you constantly do this with Morrison's personal opinions. Go. So The Presence, The Source, The Overmonitor/Overvoid are all the same being (supposedly). @xearesay prove you don’t troll. I know this battle has been done before plenty of times, but whait I want to know is how can the OV be stronger than the Presence when it didn't even ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Are you typing in a hurry? It's a conscious unmanifest void. Always felt like the presence was the writer himself manifesting into a character in DC. Mandrakk Presence isnt even in top 5 charecters like writer,leviathan,utu,enlil,gilgamesh,overvoid exists,you watch to much youtube or something like that. CAS CANT BE FASTER THAN THE FASTEST MA ALIVE!! If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. From the verse he is considered the god above all others. @userthatisme: The entire "paper" is on the desk of some random kid. zopzop. Based on that, I have to assume that the Beyonder and One Above All wins. ignore omnipotent statements and ignore writer interpretations as so many verses would stalemate doing so. CatL18 . 1; 2; Next. The Primal Monitor is what creation exists within. Basically my interpretation is that. And these are unquestionably the 3 most powerful entities (based on presentation) that DC ever published. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. Entitäten wie The Voice und The Source sind nur Aspekte von The Presence. So,it is very difficult to compare. But in the real world, it is the comic book writer. Wikis. Posted by 1 month ago. I see.. but you failed, CAS was already infinitely faster than you before you were even born. In the history of the DC Universe, the Presence is the fictionalized counterpart to the Godof the Abrahamic (but mostly Christian) religions. DeMattes' Presence / Kirby's Source / Morrison's Overvoid are more or less the same thing. Bruh xea no offense but uh you do realize by saying pralaya is an aspect of the overvoid that you admit the overvoid is apart of the presence when asked matteis was very clear pralaya was apart of the presence and considering he made her I'ma take his word face palm, He’s a troll isn’t he? I believe there are rules against making straight-up omnipotence vs omnipotence rumbles, yes? Next Last. I saw that when I searched them up. @userthatisme: unfortunately not he is no troll he is dead serious in his beliefs same with the rest of the monitor fan base. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. Powers and Stats. Why would we agree on something that there's no proof of? I have just learned now that the Presence isn’t truly omnipotent, although still far above Beyonder and Darkseid. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Name: God, The One Above All, The Creator, The Oversoul, The Void Beyond All Voids, The Source, The Overvoid, Monitor-Mind, The Presence, among many others Origin: DC Comics. 40. T2 easily. How am I wanking dc? Presence is arguably at best equal to the Overvoid and arguably below it. But, I will vote for Tema2. The same goes with The Writer. Snyder is not using Grant's version of the Source Wall, or anything else in the hierarchy. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. He rarely helps the heroes or interferes with anything, except he brought back the Earth once when it was destroyed. Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. While The presence is the hand and the pen. I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly or you writing wrong darkest knight made sphere of gods shudder with his might,sphere of gods contains heaven,hell,skyland,apokalips new genesis etc It's just a huge unknowable thing. It's a conscious unmanifest void. You kinda dumb ngl. Why/How would they fight. Save changes Preview Cancel. She is the aspect of the non existence of the presence or his Unconsciousness taken form. People genuinely think thanos with ig is ”omnipotent” and the fact they don’t know anything or just ignore feats for dc characters claiming a weak feat can beat x from dc from y of marvel. The Presence, The Overvoid, and The Writer No, not asking for a Rumbles between these 3 entities. Because if so, this is taking "stop hitting yourself" to a whole new level. hide. You can say that about every marvel fan ever. I was joking about Zeno omnipotent thing. report. would you be able to list some characters able to solo DC? 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